Friday, January 01, 2010

INDIA: ONE NATION ONE PEOPLE: A Conversation on Twitter,

Dialogue must go on, with open mind, to break the ice or to progress,

On the eve of farewell to year 2009, [IST:11:15 -12.00 31/12/2009] @Alamsha Karnan and @drssdutt got connected accidentally on Twitter and a conversation took place on problems, prospects and possibilities of making, India a One Nation One People Country. Conversation is being presented hereunder with slight rearrangement of sentences to reduce Twitter discreteness and for the sake of continuity of dialogue.

To prevent any misunderstanding, raw data has been preserved on, http://bit.ly/8ybY6f

Conversation began as @drssdutt received the following from @Alamsha Karnan :

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt Pls read this.."Islamic Ahimsa" http://bit.ly/6vuxSk

11:15 AM Dec 31st, 2009 from TweetDeck in reply to drssdutt

@drssdutt If u were given the mandate, how will you eliminate Jihadi terrorism from Indian soil?.

@drssdutt I want to renounce Islam and become a Brahmin. Tell me how?

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan what I want to say is briefed in a one page note, http://bit.ly/6R3o6d

@Alamsha_Karnan Hindiusm,Christianity, Islam etc are the paths realized by many through experience, so conflicts to show supremacy only.....

@Alamsha_Karnan each one, living& non living is the WHOLE and its constituent of the Eternal Reality, call it Brahma or whatever you name, Cont....

@Alamsha_Karnan Dear well said, being a Brahmin is to be one who has realized the Brahma, the Supreme Unity so has UNIFIED (Advait) contd...

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt Pls read this to know more..."Vande Mataram ?. We will NEVER NEVER NEVER sing.". http://bit.ly/24xqUZ

@drssdutt I said Brahmin, NOT Hindu. All citizens of Hindustan are Hindus, including Muslims, and Arya Samaj is fake. Insult to injury.

@drssdutt I agree with you. You can read my 5 point formula to make India a world leader...http://bit.ly/7qXesN

@drssdutt First, Shankaracharya should do my Upanayanam in front Taj Mahal. This will be live telecast nationwide.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Dear Upanayan itself is a ceremony only; Ultimate stage is realization of that ONE, any way...

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt A Muslim shall NOT bow his head or worship anything other than Allah. Shahjehan built a love temple and hence he is a Kafir

@drssdutt After becoming a Brahmin, i will give a Fatwa on Taj Mahal declaring that TM is unIslamic b'cos Shanjehan worshipped his wife...

@drssdutt This historic event will be live telecast nationwide and will unite India as ONE NATION, ONE PEOPLE.

@drssdutt After this Fatwa, i will do my first Kumbabhishekam. I will keep Shivlinga on Shahjehan's head and do milk Abhishekam.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Again what you are saying to do are only worldly ceremonies. Unless people realize that paths lead to ONE conflict will continue

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt This historic event will be live telecast nationwide and will unite India as ONE NATION, ONE PEOPLE.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Even then there it may not lead to your aim as there are many factions in both Hindus and Muslims who will not accept your...

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt u r right. I call this as "Islamic Ahimsa" to reestablish the Dharma. I know many Muslims admire me secretly.

@drssdutt Can u tell me a better mechanism to unite India as ONE NATION, ONE PEOPLE?

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan It is really satisfying to know, however with the restlessness for the same, I reached to conclusion-Open People's Mind.

@Alamsha_Karnan We have been resilient enough to survive centuries of invasion and destruction of every sort. We will survive this too.

@Alamsha_Karnan Once facts are firmly affirmed in people's mind, no institution of any sect or religion will be needed

@Alamsha_Karnan Opening of People's mind is FAR MORE IMPORTANT that getting approved by this or that institution officially you get my point

@Alamsha_Karnan So better is to make people aware of reality and OPEN UP THEIR MINDS, which will be the greatest contribution to human civilization.

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt When invaders came, we were not 1.2 billion with 700 million poor. The hard truth is staring right into our eyes.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Invaders took what they wanted; we have been more troubled when forefathers declared ceremonies as substitute of Eternality

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt ..and invaders came for wealth and women, NOT for Dawah. Hindus renounced Hinduism b'cos of caste suppression.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Those who renounced Hinduism for cast actually renounced the religion, no one can renounce the cosmic order, Sanatan dharma,(Eternal Being) even an atheist…

@Alamsha_Karnan We have been resilient enough to survive centuries of invasion and destruction of every sort. We will survive this too.

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt I strongly believe that India alone has the capacity to deliver peace for humanity. We have to understand this strength.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan True, but we have to take it as it is and do what is needed.

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt We are a overpopulated nation and if we ignore, very soon we may declare that we don't enough to feed every one.

@drssdutt We must take-up the responsibility to lead the subcontinent in order to keep the hopes and trust alive and stronger.

@drssdutt I strongly believe that India alone has the capacity to deliver peace for humanity. We have to understand this strength

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan True, but we have to take it as it is and do what is needed.

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt Even today, there is NOT a single Hindu without caste. Read our matrimonial. Nobody seeks alliance with a Hindu. There is caste.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Some classification is everywhere, Khans and saiyads are away from Ansaries, Christians see from which original cast they converted ….

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt "India looks beautiful from America" is a nightmare. It's a free license for Jesus and Bharat Mata will become Mary Mata.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Trend of migration is reverting back, US is in fact a collapsing elephant destined to lag far behind soon

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt We are a overpopulated nation and if we ignore, very soon we may declare that we don't enough to feed every one.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Yes we are overpopulated but with unequal distribution of opportunities, I agree with you, India is our country, we have to change…

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt We are wasting our time on US/Israel. Look at China. US is waiting at their door steps. US can NOT survive without India. Simple.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan All these are the tactics of political economy, cycle rotates, do not worry, we need to be alert and do needful before rain

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt My favourite quote: " Islam without Hinduism is NOT my Islam".

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan If you go through my page you will realize we existed (in the beginning of this life) even before being a Hindu or Muslim by religion, as cosmic eternal being

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt We need to create opportunities for 700 million poor increasing by 30 million per year. Honestly, we don't have enough...

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Yes we are so but it wise and becomes more important to work hard to develop economically and be mentally open to absorb

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt 250 million Indian Muslims are being pushed against a dead wall. Vande Mataram Fatwa is a clear proof that they are losing hopes.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan These are secondary religious manipulations to gain political advantage by both sides, we must make people realize it.

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt Muslims have paid enuff for Babur and partition and can NOT take any more "Agni Parikshas" to prove their loyalty to their home.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan Who is taking Agni Pariksha? A handful of people have distorted the image before the world. So innocents are suffering.

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt If they are pushed a little more, they will appeal for Hijrath to 55 Islamic nations as instructed by Quran. Islamic Ahimsa.

@drssdutt to @Alamsha Karnan

@Alamsha_Karnan You began with a desire to become Brahmin and do certain ceremonies to declare. What is needed is to realize that ...

@Alamsha_Karnan We are same cosmic being, painted by religion which differ only apparently, We have to make people aware to not to conflict

@Alamsha_Karnan and work to overcome our socio economic problems. Has good discussion, hope you agree now. I am now following you

@Alamsha Karnan to @drssdutt

@drssdutt 90% of Indians are peace lovers and 10% are crooks. You belong to 90% and hence i can feel your difficulty...

@drssdutt This is the reason i said "Islam without Hinduism is NOT my Islam". You echo my desire and i am on your side. I agree.

S.S.D.Pandey, Global Synergetic Foundation

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